rustyman - Posted - 02/16/2012:  20:52:59

I would like to find out about my brother's B & D Senorita. It is serial # 5873 stamped on bottom of wood rod. Says made in USA. Has Gretsch tailpiece. I've posted several pics on my homepage. I would say it is in fair condition. Would like to know about it's mfg date, worth, and any other info pertinent to this model. Thanks for any help.

Polle Flaunoe - Posted - 02/17/2012:  02:17:06

The Senorita is most likely manufactured in 1968. It´s a sort of floor sweep example - with elements from various earlier versions. Plus the rim seems very odd - it´s thicker than usual - do notice the countersinking of the bracket screws.

Polle

Polle Flaunoe - Posted - 02/17/2012:  06:02:27

PS!

The banjo seems to have a Whyte Ladie style tone ring - if so, this conforms the late dating.

geezr - Posted - 02/17/2012:  06:22:54

Polle

The tone ring is not a Whyte Laydie style tone ring. It is a Gibson style flat head ring. I would guess that it is not a Bacon/Gretsch pot, and that it is an after market pot and tone ring adapted to the Bacon resonator, neck and hardware.

Jay

Edited by - geezr on 02/17/2012 06:24:01

Polle Flaunoe - Posted - 02/17/2012:  08:01:59

Jay,

Yes - I think, that you´re right - of course - that would explain for the odd rim as well. At that time Gretsch used a thin multi layer rim. I´ll have to polish my eyeglasses.

Early 1968 or so Gretsch introduced a new model - very similar to the Senorita - but with only Bacon written at the peghead - and with the Whyte Ladie style tone ring as mentioned. I´ve so far only seen one example of this model.

The Made in USA stamp was introduced in 1965 - serial numbers after that time follows this system: Month-Year-Production# - so I´ve been told - the Senorita in question with the SN 5873 will then be #73 example from may 1968.

Polle

rustyman - Posted - 02/18/2012:  09:09:24

Thanks for the responses. If a decision is to sell the B & D Senorita what would it be worth?