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janolov - Posted - 05/07/2012: 00:16:28
We have a mushroom called Stenmurkla in Swedish, or Gyromitra esculenta in Latin. I think it is called false morel in English. Yesterday we picked a bunch of these. They are considered as a delicacy, but are highly toxic. The National Food Agency recommend that it shall not be eaten, not even after several parboiling. Some books says that it should first be dried in room temperature for one month and then parboiled twice to reduce the content of the poison (gyromitrin). Some years ago we creamed morels (first drying and then parboiling three times) and served to roast elk. It was delicious and we survived. We will probably try to eat them this year too.
GlennM - Posted - 05/07/2012: 01:10:32
CHICKENS ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE EARTH AND ALL UR WORRIED ABOUT IS SHROOMS?
dingo - Posted - 05/07/2012: 03:35:08
As fast as Morels are disappearing in the US, you might want to be careful, we will be invading your country, toxic, who cares, it is about the hunt.
janolov - Posted - 05/07/2012: 05:19:50
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Originally posted by GlennM
CHICKENS ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE EARTH AND ALL UR WORRIED ABOUT IS SHROOMS?
I see. It is the chickens who have planted the poisonous morels!
banjotom2 - Posted - 05/07/2012: 05:43:58
Mushroom #1: "Hey... There's a Fungus Among Us!"...
Mushroom #2: "Too funny! But, you always were a Fungi!"...
Mushroom #3: "Straighten up! You guys have no Morels!"...
Mushroom Hunter: "I'll 'stem' this problem!"...
Edited by - banjotom2 on 05/07/2012 05:49:16
janolov - Posted - 05/07/2012: 05:52:21
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Originally posted by banjotom2
One Mushroom to another:
"Hey... There's a Fungus Among Us!"...
The Vikings used to make a drug of fly agaric (?) and used as an intoxicant . It was used in connection with the berserk competitions. eventss
Coonskin - Posted - 05/07/2012: 06:45:10
Berserker banjo...that's a good cd title! Is there tab for "cluck old 'shroom"?
If one is in Sweden, I'm warned against that mushroom, but maybe you Swedes are tougher than us, hahaha.
gic.se/Documents/Svampbroschyr...glish.pdf
KE - Posted - 05/07/2012: 07:19:18
That looks
like a brain and
brainstem
quote
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Originally posted by janolov
Edited by - KE on 05/07/2012 07:21:46
Banjo - Posted - 05/07/2012: 07:32:26
At what point do you decide that the poisons have been boiled out and you toss it in your mouth?
Chemical analysis? Taste Tests? Sounds too scary for me. 
Trapper Rich - Posted - 05/07/2012: 07:48:09
Gyromitra esculenta are more commonly known as a "beefsteak" mushroom around the northern U.S. They typically appear early in the morel season.
I find these quite often while hunting morels, but I don't eat them. My buddy eats them. He doesn't do anything fancy to prepare them. He just cooks them in butter right after he finds them and he doesn't get sick from them. I wouldn't recommend to anyone else to do this, though.
Most people can eat them with no problem, but a small percentage of people will get sick after eating them.
Beefsteaks are pretty much done around here. The morel season is winding down in Michigan. We are at the final stage of this year's morel season, we are now finding the last type of morel to appear, Morchella crassipes.
Tim13 - Posted - 05/07/2012: 08:31:10
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Originally posted by janolov
Some books says that it should first be dried in room temperature for one month and then parboiled twice to reduce the content of the poison (gyromitrin).
Gyromitrin: Stomach acids convert gyromitrin to monomethylhydrazine (MMH), a compound employed in rocket fuel. It affects multiple body systems. It blocks the important neurotransmitter GABA, leading to stupor, delirium, muscle cramps, loss of coordination,[6] tremors, and/or seizures. It causes severe gastrointestinal irritation, leading to vomiting and diarrhea. In some cases, liver failure has been reported.[6] It can also cause red blood cells to break down, leading to jaundice, kidney failure, and signs of anemia. It is found in mushrooms of the genus Gyromitra.[16] A gyromitrin-like compound has also been identified in mushrooms of the genus Verpa.[15]
I'll take a Big Mac instead...lol.
Seriously though, I recall a family from California about 15 years ago that went mushroom picking, and came back home with a bounty of shrooms. They cooked up a big pot of spaghetti with mushroom marinara. Unfortunately, they all perished from liver failure a few weeks later. No matter how experienced the mushroom picker is, there is always the chance of misidentifying a species, and the outcome can be horrifying. It's not my cup of tea. I'll stick to the domestic varieties.
Tim
chief3 - Posted - 05/07/2012: 08:36:32
Be very, very carefull with False Morels. Before we knew any better, we would eat them and have no ill effects, but my father was seriously poisoned one time and he never touched them after that. When I later realized there was a difference between Morels and False Morels I did some research. It seems that some people are more sensitive to the toxin than others, but everyone who eats them are being poisoned. People also have different thresholds regarding the toxin that, when passed, can cause serious long lasting effects such as organ damage. Eating them ain't worth it. I don't eat poisonous blow fish either but I hear their delicious ....... to a point.
Speaking of eatin' ...........
(Ms Hathaway is eager to meet Jethro)
Ms. Hathaway: "I presume he went to Eaton as a boy"
Jed Clampett: "If I know Jethro he went to eatin' the moment he was born"
edavidt - Posted - 05/07/2012: 19:51:29
Toxicity does vary from person to person. I would suggest that you eat no more than a 1/4 cube, after thorough cooking, and then wait a day. If you have no problems, then up the quantity just a bit.
There is one species of mushroom that I can't eat, but it is considered a delicacy, and is never listed as a toxic species (blewitts). The first time I eat any species, I only eat 1 small piece. I tried a 1/4 inch cube of the blewitt, and had horrible bloating and felt a bit nauseous. Surely, I thought, it must be something else - none of the guidebooks suggested that there were any problems with these. I tried again, and then a third time. Same thing each time. I gave up. I can only imagine how sick I would have been if I had even eaten a single cap!
I personally do not eat false morels, however. Why would I want to when there are so many other wonderful species that grow in the PNW , including true morels and at least one species of boletes at the moment?
banjotom2 - Posted - 05/08/2012: 02:45:42
'Shroom Prose...
* * *
I was walkin' in the woods... when I found this uh-Mush-a-room...
I ate the thing, laid down to sleep... once I was in my room...
Next thing I know, I'm on a trip and pulling out my hair...
Funny thing, while on that trip, I didn't go no where!
There were lions, tigers, monkeys too... on this little trip of mine...
Lying right there in my bed... and tripping out 'my mind!
Next day I wake back in my bed... and no one there but me...
I don't eat mushrooms no more... 'cause of what hap-pened to me...
And just in case you like to trip, and don't feel it does no harm...
There's a couple of folks who took the trip and accidentally bought the farm...
So, pick them 'shrooms and eat 'em down, if that's what you like to do...
But be warned, they might be fun... but can be the end of you!
Confucius
Edited by - banjotom2 on 05/08/2012 02:46:00
boyratchet - Posted - 05/08/2012: 03:20:43
janolov, what does it taste like? I was once shown a similar mushroom while in Poland. It was also toxic, but it had the most alluring odor of walnuts and maple syrup. I was told that it was protected (at least in Poland). The only difference was that this one had a diameter of about 20cm.
Kenneth Logsdon - Posted - 05/08/2012: 08:01:12
When you read about all the mushroom experts that die from eating poison mushrooms.... NO way... The Big Mac sounds a lot safer.
janolov - Posted - 05/08/2012: 09:52:42
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Originally posted by boyratchet
janolov, what does it taste like? I was once shown a similar mushroom while in Poland. It was also toxic, but it had the most alluring odor of walnuts and maple syrup. I was told that it was protected (at least in Poland). The only difference was that this one had a diameter of about 20cm.
The false morel taste a little like nut and maple syrup, but it has a diameter of about 5 cm at most. Here we have some similar with a diameter of 10 - 15 cm that is very toxic and is absolutely recommended not to eat (we call the Brown Bishop Hat). The fasle morel comes in the late spring (first half of May in Sweden, perhaps earlier down in middle and south Europe). The other bigger and more poisonous are coming up in September-October.
boyratchet - Posted - 05/10/2012: 02:34:44
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Originally posted by janolov
quote:
Originally posted by boyratchet
janolov, what does it taste like? I was once shown a similar mushroom while in Poland. It was also toxic, but it had the most alluring odor of walnuts and maple syrup. I was told that it was protected (at least in Poland). The only difference was that this one had a diameter of about 20cm.
The false morel taste a little like nut and maple syrup, but it has a diameter of about 5 cm at most. Here we have some similar with a diameter of 10 - 15 cm that is very toxic and is absolutely recommended not to eat (we call the Brown Bishop Hat). The fasle morel comes in the late spring (first half of May in Sweden, perhaps earlier down in middle and south Europe). The other bigger and more poisonous are coming up in September-October.
It was September when I saw it. As I recall, it was to be prepared in a cream sauce and served with veal. Since the fellow who picked it and ate it is not dead, I guess he knows something about how to prepare them. He did describe a very elaborate and time consuming process for preparing them similar to what you describe but more involved.
banjotom2 - Posted - 05/10/2012: 07:30:17
You really wanna eat this?
Looks like something you'd find in an... uhm Adult Toy store... (sorry I HAD to say that!)
janolov - Posted - 05/10/2012: 11:29:10
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Originally posted by banjotom2
You really wanna eat this?
Looks like something you'd find in an... uhm Adult Toy store... (sorry I HAD to say that!)
Isn't this one used for aphrodisiac in some East Asia countries?
