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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Okay who drilled the holes in the Bacon


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ktbown - Posted - 05/21/2013:  13:00:20


Although I'd like the tuners    ebay.com/itm/Bacon-Day-Montana...926540556


beegee - Posted - 05/21/2013:  13:02:47


I would surmise that someone had lights installed at some point. Shame.


kmwaters - Posted - 05/21/2013:  13:04:41


They just forgot the furry dice.


jbalch - Posted - 05/21/2013:  13:53:08


Looks like a series of maybe eight (8) holes (if they continue all around the rim).  You can see five (5).



First generation Silver Bell tone rings were "ventilated" with small holes all around the ring.



Gretsch student-grade  "Clarophone" banjos had holes around the rim.



Maybe this was an attempt to open up the rim and let more sound out.



I wonder what it sounds like.



Edited by - jbalch on 05/21/2013 13:53:28

rudykizuty - Posted - 05/21/2013:  15:18:51


Shameful to do that to such a fine piece of history.


jims38134 - Posted - 05/21/2013:  15:21:17


That's some BIG holes.  I'd like to see it first hand and look under the hood.  Resonator is non-Montana, outside of rim should be covered in pyralin (I suspect not original rim), nice catalin tuner buttons (again not original equipment) and flange engraving is not normal for a Montana No 1.  BUT, other than that, if neck is straight, I'm sure it sounds great! jim


ktbown - Posted - 05/21/2013:  15:24:20


the flange looks like it was gold plated .. or is that brassing from wear ?


bargrasspicker - Posted - 05/21/2013:  15:31:48


I put those speed holes in so I could play faster. less wind resistance.

USELESSWALI - Posted - 05/21/2013:  15:51:44


lets the gas out

BanjoDaddio - Posted - 05/21/2013:  17:23:57


I had some BIG ole rhinestones that needed to go somewhere and the holes were perfect...I didn't have enough to spell out my name on my old, no-count Stradivarius, so off to the B&D....


stanger - Posted - 05/25/2013:  13:13:45


quote:

Originally posted by beegee

 

I would surmise that someone had lights installed at some point. Shame.







Yup. Probably flashers, too.



This wasn't uncommon back then. Light kits were widely available and were very popular, but most of the lights were mounted on the inside surface of the rim. I've seen the lights on the outer surfaces installed in all kinds of ways, some very ugly to my eye.



The drill job looks very clean. I'm sure the holes could be plugged, and a new veneer would cover it all up. The resonator doesn't match the banjo, though. 



regards,



stanger


GSCarson - Posted - 05/26/2013:  10:49:53


I made a banjo for friend Reed Martin a few years back. It was based on a late 20's Vega Deluxe using an original orphan pot which required restoration and a new neck. Unfortunately, someone had lost the original bracket band and then drilled 28 holes through the rim for shoes, making quite a mess of the rim, especially the interior. I spent months stewing over the repair and in the end plugged the holes with maple dowels I made, then spent hours setting it up on a lathe with the goal to remove enough wood to install a thick veneer that matched the original wood. I even made a rubbing of the original serial numbers and placement. Fortunately it was round and I was able to turn the interior within the original binding without messing it up. I glued the veneer in and then hand scraped it down to match the binding. You cannot tell it was repaired but it was a lot of hand work and time to pull it off. Then we found an original bracket band and I engraved that to match the hoop. In the end, it turned out well, looks original and old and still has all that original Tubaphone sound. It was a lot of work but doable and I got a lot of satisfaction getting it back together and even more now that it has become Reed's main player. So, don't write that old Bacon off yet! Glenn C

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