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PKM - Posted - 07/08/2025: 10:38:48
I have a strange and very puzzling situation with my new Myers Grip pickup (condenser mic) working with our band’s sound board. This probably isn’t the best most appropriate inquiry for BHO, but I’m at a loss, who to else to ask.
I recently purchased a Myers Grip for my banjo, and when I tested it at home, through my Mackie board to a small amplified, it worked great and sounds awesome.
When our band plays a gig we use an Allen & Heath sound board that is owned by another band member. When the Myers is plugged into that board, there is no sound whatsoever. I even brought along my other banjo fitted with a Fishman Rare Earth, and it worked fine. So, it is not an issue with cords, battery, channel, etc. I used the same cords, same channel, same DI, etc. but no matter what, the Myers does not work when plugged into that sound board.
I read somewhere that using a 1/4”-to-XLR adaptor would make the difference, but it did not. The Myers, unlike the Fishman magnetic pickup, is a small condenser microphone. My condenser vocal mic works fine when tested in that same channel.
I reached out to Gregg Myers, who very kindly responded via email and devoted some time to the problem, but correspondence stopped when I acknowledged that I don’t think there is any fault with his pickup. I am writing in hopes there is a very off-chance that perhaps someone else has encountered this problem with Myers and their sound board, and has resolved the issue.
Thank you sincerely
Edited by - Texasbanjo on 07/08/2025 11:11:48
rvrose - Posted - 07/08/2025: 22:36:09
Or bass player used a Myers for awhile. As I remember it had a very low output level and I had to crank the input gain up to max. Did you try on a hi z input?
Rick
PKM - Posted - 07/09/2025: 05:19:28
Rick, Thank you for that suggestion !
Interesting that your bass player had that experience, since what I'd read was that Hi z was used when plugging in a magnetic pickup, and the Myers is a small, powered condenser mic. I will definitely give that a try !!
Thanks again.
banjoak - Posted - 07/10/2025: 12:43:14
That it works fine on another board (or amp) indicates it's not the mic. No sound whatsoever? Indicates no signal (vs weak) getting through the chain. There isn't enough difference in Mackie vs A&H board, preamps to cause no sound. Should be able to handle a range of weaker/stronger input levels adequately; including handling Hi-Z and low-z; magnetic PU, dynamic mics; (condensers use phantom power, should have plenty of signal); should at minimum at least get something, even if comparatively weaker sound. If cranked an still nothing indicates something else. When I've encountered no sound, at gig setup using someone else's board; generally, it is something basic, overlooked... need to go over the process check, and re-check again.
Batteries die, as it's probably an electret mic... needs battery for phantom power (as opposed to condenser that needs 48v phantom, generally on board, thru XLR). Bad cord or bad connection, jack; similar are bad or dirty pots; any of which can be deceiving, as might work intermittently, seem to work just fine sometimes (like testing another instrument, suddenly works).
Then there is just user error, haste, not plugged into place they thought, a mute button was engaged (or other channel solo), perhaps a -20 pad engaged, or set as line input; for condensers, no phantom power; or something on DI or any other pedal, outboard (I would suggest test bypass the DI, just plug straight into board or guitar amp). Sometimes the input gain was turned way down. (sometimes comes down to not quite understand gain staging, or their board).
Edited by - banjoak on 07/10/2025 12:49:46
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