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Thanks to you all

From Bumnotes Bill on 7/17/2012 6:02:22 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome, I look forward to getting to know you all in time and I am very pleased with the help and advice I have been given. To answer a couple of questions I like bluegrass, celtic and some old time music, and I have not used the seach facility but will do when I have learned to navigate the site properly. If I have been slow in showing my gratitude please excuse me as I am also new to the web site and am not sure how things work yet.

Many thanks to you all, Tony.

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Banjoukegirl says:
7/17/2012 8:30:57 AM

I've been there, done that, too, Tony. Clawhammer style is VERY different from bluegrass (Scruggs) type banjo playing. Both great, but entirely different.

Bumnotes Bill says:
7/17/2012 12:11:56 PM

What would you consider to be a good example of clawhammer, I'm curious about that Banjoukegirl as although I like almost all of what I have listened to I am a little hazy on examples of the styles and would like to learn more.

Banjoukegirl says:
7/17/2012 2:03:16 PM

OK, Bill, I'm not all that experienced, but do hang out with fiddle jams (married to an oldtime fiddler). Clawhammer has a distinct and explicit beat and style that many refer to as "Bum Dit Tee) that is required in the playing. You only strike the string with right finger (usually index or middle finger) DOWN, not up, followed by a down and up-plucked thumb, immediately AFTER the down with the finger. Clawhammer is more steady-beat oriented. Bluegrass players sometimes have a more difficult time keeping the timing as the strings are plucked up on the right hand Also, alot of chording goes on on the left hand. There's a lot more to know, but look at YouTube and search on both, and you can see the difference. Hope that helps. Ginny

Bumnotes Bill says:
7/18/2012 6:01:03 AM

Ginny, I had a look on you-tube and I see what you are saying, it looks interesting and the sound is very different, I think I will look into it some more.

Banjoukegirl says:
7/18/2012 8:20:32 AM

Hi, Bill.
I should have mentioned that with clawhammer, you are also chording, and pulling off, hammering on, etc.. There is "drop thumbing" that happens on the right hand, to, so you can get the melody going with both hands. (You are playing melody with BOTH hands, and the drop thumb means you don't play the thumb on just the 5th string. You pluck up with your thumb on the 2 middle strings as well. Check out Ken Perlman who writes books about playing melody with the clawhammer. It's quite intriguing, I think. I'm going to another week-long fiddle workshop in E. Washington this next week, and taking banjo and hoping to sit in on the fiddle classes a bit, too. I have a "Banjo head" going on right now , rather than the "fiddle head."

Bumnotes Bill says:
7/19/2012 12:16:53 PM

That sound good, enjoy youself Ginny

Banjoukegirl says:
7/25/2012 7:46:24 AM

I tried a second beginning class at another fiddle camp, but dropped it. The first class left me beyond the beginners, so I took intermediate fiddle, instead. I'm struggling, but hanging in there....and missing playing the banjo, too. About 375 students at this Washington Oldtime Fiddlers Association Workshop in Kittitas, Washington. Very fun, very friendly, About 42% are kids. Cool!

Bumnotes Bill says:
7/28/2012 1:34:22 PM

Sounds good Ginny, I like the fiddle but I think its beyond me lol. No frets very difficult. I learned some more about old time though and I am practicing basic frailing so thanks for the tips.

Banjoukegirl says:
7/28/2012 5:42:52 PM

You may be surprised that banjo (in my opinion) I found MORE difficult than the fiddle. Banjo set-up (notes) are not as intuitively arranged as on the fiddle neck. Don't rule it out if you feel like expanding even further. But, after doing about 15 hrs. at the fiddle workshop on the fiddle, I'm feeling like I learned alot more technique to try, but anxious to get back to my ole banjo again.

Bumnotes Bill says:
7/29/2012 3:07:35 PM

My wife wan'ts to try the Eukalele so I may help her with that but I think the fiddle is a way off yet as I am still struggling with the banjo lol, slowly improving though!


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