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A friend inherited this banjo from his father. I'm trying to help him identify the model, age and approximate worth. We took several pictures that I have attached.
Any and all help is appreciated.
Edited by - Texasbanjo on 05/28/2026 14:27:44
RB170
single? coordinator rod, thin-rim, full diameter rolled ring model with Kershner tailpiece upgrade. And judging by the tailpiece, the neck is cut a little crooked at the heel; apparently this is common.
I think they can be purchased for $7-1200 depending on the weather.
These are my favorite Gibson banjos.
Edited by - pinenut on 05/28/2026 15:31:49
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Originally posted by OldFretsAh, I thought the 170 was a long neck. My mistake. I think the long neck's are the RB175 and RB180
Edited by - pinenut on 05/28/2026 15:37:54
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Originally posted by pinenutRB170
single? coordinator rod, thin-rim, full diameter rolled ring model with Kershner tailpiece upgrade. And judging by the tailpiece, the neck is cut a little crooked at the heel; apparently this is common.
I think they can be purchased for $7-1200 depending on the weather.
These are my favorite Gibson banjos.
P.S.
These were available new from about 1960~1981, roughly.
It looks like the frets may have been swapped out for jumbos?
Edited by - pinenut on 05/28/2026 15:45:49
Mid-to late 1960's RB-170 banjo
Appears to have the thinner "multi-ply" rim,and not the preferred 3 ply rim
It's got a "flathead" looking brass tone hoop (no actual tone ring), a well -made mahogany neck, with a Brazilian rosewood fretboard, and a maple rim.
Gibson put these out during the '60's, into the very early '70's, in response to the "Folk Music" craze, however, they never really found a niche.....they weren't great sounding open- backs, and they sure as hell weren't Bluegrass banjos !
Some of the first ones from the early '60's, with the 3ply rim, and the arch-top style brass tone hoop were actually pretty decent banjos.
It's a late '63 through '64 RB-170. These are great banjos. And while it's not the very thick rim of the 1960-early '63, it's thicker than the '65 though '81. I have no idea why these don't bring more money. Folks will pay $2-$3K for some modern openback that's no better quality than these. But there ya go...market forces. Steve Martin's first banjo was an early 60's RB-170. There are several photos online. Here are two--one from the early 60s and one from the 70s, same banjo: ODE tailpiece and ODE D-tuners added. There's another photo somewhere online that shows the headstock better with the ODE D-tuners. He still plays that banjo--calls it his "frailing banjo". Anyway, I love my RB-170 and RB-180 banjos, both '62, wouldn't sell them for any amount of money. I've traded hundreds of banjos over the decades and played them all.
Edited by - 35planar on 05/28/2026 20:31:43
As mentioned above many times, a RB-170. At one point I had three of them. Sold two to members here. I think one wound up in Hawaii- Lucky banjo!
One of the most versatile and under appreciated banjos that Gibson ever made. Excellent values for a players instrument.
The one I kept is a 1960. Years ago, On a whim, I dropped in an old brass hoop that came off of a TB-11. That banjo just sings. My preferred instrument to use when I get to play Round Peak tunes with friends.
Why these instruments are not, or ever have been in crazy demand among traditional players, I will never know. Every one I have ever played has been top notch for sound and playability.
I agree about the EARLY 60s dating. At that time Gibson banjos had a 9/16" rim, which they had pretty much been since Gibson standardized the rim and Doehler one piece flange design in 1930 or so. After 1964 Gibson changed rim suppliers and they could bend only up to 7/16" which remained the standard for the rest of the 60s -- the "thin rim" period. The banjo in the original post would be the "good" 9/16" rim.
The banjo does look much like an RB 100 without flange and resonator, but you can tell the difference by the shoe bolts through the side of the rim of this RB 170.
Frets look "jumbo" because in the 60s Gibson used fat electric guitar frets on their banjos.
These banjos never really caught on with the folkies: new Vega open backs were lighter weight than Gibsons and because of P Seeger the "Vega" name may have been preferred. New Vega open backs were already in music stores in the late 50s when the Kingston Trio kicked off the folk banjo "boom". Gibson was a few years late to the party.
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