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Originally posted by jwold

Surely Boston Dynamics is working on a band to bring this to reality?

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One certainly hopes so! I would pay good money to see a five-piece string band of robot dogs! 

this thread -- jarred this oldie to mind== Don Mclean said he was inspired to write some of  this ---from reading headlines on the papers he delivered--think Jimmy Brown at a later date--

Carlton Haney was the "father" of the artificial bluegrass festival. He put on a festival at Camp Springs one time that featured NO LIVE BANDS! He just had a big screen on the stage and showed film footage of all the great artists of the past. He had the Stanley Brothers, Flatt & Scruggs, Reno & Smiley etc etc! This happened sometime in the mid 80s. I dare say that few of you have ever heard this story (sic?) which demonstrates just how successful the endeavor was!

Chuck, thanks for the encouragement .... I hadn't realized my 3,2,4,1/3,2,4,1/3,2,4,1/etc./etc./etc. was adding soul.  

Bruno.... think along the lines of one of the verboten topics and it'll come to you.    [And if that isn't "reality" I don't know what would be.  ]

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youtu.be/zwZ8uvXAkfg?si=DVFWvaYcFjdRO52G
Wonder what Monroe would think

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posting this to keep the thread on topic but not against a bit of thread drift either

The world is changing and I doubt there is much we can do about it.  Computers have been scouring the web and absorbing every available piece of music, much to the chagrin of record companies.  The computers aren't directly copying, just learning how to make different sounds and how to assemble those sounds in a way that pleases humans.  The recording industry has already filed multiple lawsuits in a vain attempt to stop this.  Our justice systems move so slowly that the computers will have absorbed and "learned" all there is to know about music long before the first court hearing is ever held.

AI music will be generated entirely ITB (In The Box).  That means no composers, no lyricists, no instruments, no human voices, no physical reverb, compression, or other effects.  Everything is produced within the computer.  This is largely the case already.  Some of it is noticeable, some not.

It will only take one generation to make the shift from meat-music to artificial music.  Your great grandkids won't know much else.  They'll listen to old recordings of human music and react to it much like today's teens react when you play them an old 78 on a Victrola.  There will be some small niche-interest but the vast majority of folks won't really care for anything but what the popular music machinery is churning out.

There are already a bunch of fake bands out there pretending to be musicians while fronting for artificially generated music.  Nowhere is this more obvious or more criticized than within the genre of Christian worship music.  There is quite a debate going on and some of you may find it interesting.

I'm a cheerful guy and I like to laugh.  I can see several funny sides to this whole conundrum.  My most positive reaction or thought is this:  The death of the human centered recording and entertainment industries will have the positive effect of wresting folk music from the hands of celebrity recording artists and returning it back to the front porches and kitchens of America where real folk music will be made by real humans in real time.  When the money and celebrity are removed from the genre, the only motivation will be a love of playing and listening to real folk music made by real folks.

The last 100 plus years of commoditized folk music has been an interesting experiment, but the experiment is coming to an end.  Oh well.

See y'all on the porch!

To me, it sounds pretty much like the music of most of the current, professional Bluegrass bands.

" that aint no part of nothin" "
Is probably what Monroe woild say

AI will always have the human hands at it's the controls maybe not front and center but then maybe outside the data center with a castle siege engine--but in truth human hands will be marketing it as a music to jam too --As far as a mass exodus from all other music--for listening pleasure --by all of mankind --no one has came close to this --on the planet--so I don't worry--

My cheap keyboards have built in accepted music properties for about all genres and putting a song together without chops is easy but does take time not musical talent--An enjoyable part to me is---where one can stretch the limits beyond capabilities ,or,, do something like putting a wolf howl at those fills Earl spoke of--These also have somewhat legit tones of about all music instruments --

BTW What nickname will it end up with--We know devout grass police will have one--

Sheesh, I even get annoyed at buskers who drag along a wagon load of ee-lek-tron-ik gizmos to represent à backup band , set them up, and then play mediocre guitar riffs over top.

Don't know if it's my connection, but the meter/rhythm seems weird.

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Sheesh, I even get annoyed at buskers who drag along a wagon load of ee-lek-tron-ik gizmos to represent à backup band , set them up, and then play mediocre guitar riffs over top.

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Have you seen the video of the guy pretending to play violin with a boom box sitting beside him? And people in the comments defending him.  It's glorified panhandling. 

These guys have over 1 million streaming subscribers on Spotify

Real or AI?

Check out this tune, then read the comments of all the people praising it even though they know it's AI

soundtracks have long since gone computer use in the studios--from simple mix down to ready made sound effects filed such as wooshes,risers,springs ,pops etc,some of those orchestral sounds are made with synth's--


A long way past the silent movie days with a local piano guy playing along

New fads come and go.
Play from your heart and let others play with their toys.
As things evolve maybe AI will learn.

Sasquatch and Yetti playing

I dunno? There's another video of these guys flying a fighter jet. Remarkable.

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Sheesh, I even get annoyed at buskers who drag along a wagon load of ee-lek-tron-ik gizmos to represent à backup band , set them up, and then play mediocre guitar riffs over top.

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Have you seen the video of the guy pretending to play violin with a boom box sitting beside him? And people in the comments defending him.  It's glorified panhandling. 

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Here's one guy's opinion 

Why busk when you can teach a class/start a cult at the local rec. center?

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Sheesh, I even get annoyed at buskers who drag along a wagon load of ee-lek-tron-ik gizmos to represent à backup band , set them up, and then play mediocre guitar riffs over top.

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Have you seen the video of the guy pretending to play violin with a boom box sitting beside him? And people in the comments defending him.  It's glorified panhandling. 

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Thanks for the atttached visual clip.  Some numbskull apparently "sucks ballsacks" and doesn't know what an apostrophe is.  Very pleasant to wake  up to such an image.  That's 15 seconds of my life gone.   

The older I get, the less I care about recorded music, whereas playing and witnessing live music is endlessly fascinating.

AI is the final nail the coffin for the music industry as we have come to know it (not that anyone today is making a living selling records). I'm pretty okay with that. If anything, it will motivate more people to participate in music instead of just passively consuming it.

I knew a gal that has a daughter that dated a guy that was in a band (?) that was nothing but electronic generated music (?). They played (?) concerts and drew large crowds. That was about ten years ago, so this has been going on for some time.

stanleytone's Mr. Bill's post says it all.

For my own endeavors I always put some banjo on that stands on it's own--by my weighted rules--


After that -any thing I put on with it is allowable--it can be anything since I don't live for a following , followings have kinda run their course anyway,{when I see  the weird ways they show }--It brings to mind the Payola  scam--Of course I still like an atta boy --but not enough -to  start worrying about if somebody -will lose faith in me

I just try to make good sound--and sometimes a little green screen type backdrop--I can woodshed and musically come in with electric gadgets and not feel a bit guilty-



I never fell into bluegrass as the ''one and only'' music --all of the musical properties of Bluegrass--- were around before they got --poured into the mold--they can be used in other ways

my opinion I ask no agreement

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BTW What nickname will it end up with--We know devout grass police will have one--

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"Artificial grass". Is there even another valid choice

just ask yourself............. WWET = "what would earl think"

then you will have your answer.