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Nov 1, 2022 - 8:07:46 AM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Ok...

Top set of pics..

I set up the iner parts of the action on the outside as so you can see how they fit n work..

You can actualy work the action gently n watch the move together..

Edited by - STUD figmo Al on 11/01/2022 08:08:36

Nov 1, 2022 - 8:10:32 AM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

2nd set of pics..
All the little parts...
That you do not want to loose.. :0/

Nov 1, 2022 - 8:33:18 AM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

The first pic in the second set of pics..

Is the extractor..
This one has a spring plunger.. yhat when works properly...
Creates light pressure..on the parts..n

Holds them in place..

Mine ..had.."mung".. in it..
Had to be freed up..n lubed up

N cleaned out..

The plunger is held in by being stamped in place..
Buggah.. so no real good way to remove it..

But soaking it in solvent or penitrating oil..
PB blaster works good..

N working it ..may free it up.
Mine did..

But you can ..if you search..find a used one..for sale..

These little guns had a few differnt generations.. n may be a little differnt ..from piece to piece..

Mine is about yours vintage..
Mine has a leaf spring ..for the hammer spring..
But some newer ones have coil springs..

I did not post pics of that..

So...
If you git into it...
N it is a bit differnt..
Do not worry...
Also ..
Mine has a take down screw..
To remove the barrel..
Yours may have a reguliar screw..

It matters that the barrel is set all the way back into the frame..

Once the parts are out..
They kinda fall out..
Expect some..um..fiddling to get them bacj in..
I use a small flat bladded screw driver to help line holes n things up..

No forcing..
Right is right..

Btw..that gun might be worth.. .some good bucks..

Oh clean it while it is apart..
Can of break cleaner works well..avoid spraying the woods finish tho..

If you get in trouble..
Mebee a road trip is warrented..
Heh..eithah ...

You..or...me.. ;0)

Nov 1, 2022 - 8:46:25 AM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

.22 shorts may be hard to come by..

I do have a small cash of them..

Nov 1, 2022 - 9:41:24 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by STUD

.22 shorts may be hard to come by..

I do have a small cash of them..


I may have to hit  you up on that.  Well, I took her apart cleaned and inspected everything.  The link holes didn't look bad or out of round.  Had one little SNAFU.  I cocked it to get the block out and went to release the hammer and of course I allowed the hammer to come too far forward and the hammer spring shot past its grove.  Rookie mistake, I haven't done any gunsmithing in a while (took a course many years ago).  But all is well, I took it all the way down and reinstalled the hammer spring, hammer and trigger.  I got her all back together and it locks up tight now.  When putting the lever back in I had to use a drift pin to get the pivot pins back in.  Maybe that's why she's tight.  I don't know but it worked.  Oh and yes the hammer spring is the leaf style so they are more than likely similar in age.  I also hear you on about the parts.  I had Numrich pulled up just in case.  I did free up that little springed nub on the extractor and that may be the back pressure to lock up correctly.  Makes scense now.

STUD, I want to personally thank you for this thread and pics showing the innards.  It got me excited to fix that ol' rifle and now I'm excited to shoot it.   I forgot how much fun it is to fix and tinker on guns.    Had to break out a lot more tools than I was planning. 


 

Edited by - buckholler on 11/01/2022 09:56:28

Nov 1, 2022 - 10:15:32 AM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Yeah the trigger thing happens....
Fergot to mention that..n

Don't feel alone. :0/
Pm me if you need anything.

Btw... good job!

Nov 1, 2022 - 10:19:58 AM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Yes that little plunger spring..in the extractor gives just nuff pressure..to hold things in place be not be loose or hangy...

Nov 1, 2022 - 10:21:25 AM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Best tool you posted is the coffee...
N...love the mug... ;0)

Nov 1, 2022 - 12:36:39 PM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Jellious...ain't'cha..!?

Might be lookin fer ah new home tho... ;0)


 

Nov 1, 2022 - 1:09:57 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by STUD

Jellious...ain't'cha..!?

Might be lookin fer ah new home tho... ;0)


Ohhh that's perdy. 

Nov 1, 2022 - 1:16:03 PM

1739 posts since 10/12/2011

I found a 22LR barrel for my rifle, its awful tempting but they want a pretty penny for it. I'd have to liquidate some banjo parts if I really want it.

Nov 1, 2022 - 1:19:06 PM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Hmm..
I did not think of that .

I'll look fer a barrel for ya too..

Nov 1, 2022 - 1:47:57 PM
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I did make a 22mag barrel for it..
From a mossberg barrel...
Could do that but in 22 long rifle..

Probly could use most any cheap 22 lr barrel to make it..




 

Nov 1, 2022 - 1:59:05 PM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Here it is put together..


 

Nov 1, 2022 - 2:15:42 PM

1739 posts since 10/12/2011

Do you think the Stevens Ideal 44 barrel would fit?

Nov 1, 2022 - 2:20:08 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by buckholler

Do you think the Stevens Ideal 44 barrel would fit?


No...

Differnt frame..

44 is bigger..

Look for steven faviorte model

Or model 1915

Nov 1, 2022 - 2:22:42 PM
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Look up bulk ammo..
On line..
They had .22 short ammo fairly cheap..
.09 cents a round

Nov 1, 2022 - 2:34:37 PM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Btw Dude....

Look up stevens 414..on line

Some goin for $2400.00

Edited by - STUD figmo Al on 11/01/2022 14:35:20

Nov 1, 2022 - 2:47:43 PM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by STUD
quote:
Originally posted by buckholler

Do you think the Stevens Ideal 44 barrel would fit?


No...

Differnt frame..

44 is bigger..

Look for steven faviorte model

Or model 1915


I may have given you bum info...

 

Could you post better pics?

 

Yours in the pic you posted looks like a stevens favorite frame..

But internet says 414 is more of a 44 frame..

Nov 1, 2022 - 3:09 PM

1739 posts since 10/12/2011

 

 

Yours in the pic you posted looks like a stevens favorite frame..

But internet says 414 is more of a 44 frame..

 

Yea what I found the often list the 414 and 44 together.  One thing I found said the 44 Ideal and Favorite used the same barrel.   I'll do some digging around and see what I come up with.

Nov 1, 2022 - 3:09:08 PM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Looks like it is a 44 frame..
After looking it up more on line..

Most are going 400 t0 500 at auction...

But Cabelas has one for saele for $2399.00..
Go figger

Nov 1, 2022 - 3:18:43 PM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Do you have calipers?..

Can you measure the width of the chamber end..?

BETTR YET...!
Dose your barrel have threads?..
The 44 dose n the favorite dose not

The favorite has a strait slip in barrel with no threads..

The 44 has a screw in barrel..

Nov 1, 2022 - 3:24:46 PM

1739 posts since 10/12/2011

 


BETTR YET...!
Dose your barrel have threads?..
The 44 dose n the favorite dose not

The favorite has a strait slip in barrel with no threads..

The 44 has a screw in barrel..


Just verified it screws off. So it's like the 44 Ideal. 

Edited by - buckholler on 11/01/2022 15:25:09

Nov 1, 2022 - 3:30:22 PM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Well...
ALL RIGHTY THEN...!

A 22 lr barrel will be to small..

Thanks this has been fun..
On a rainy day here.

If need be tho we still can cut a barrel..from a blank..

But if you can find ammo cheap as i did on the net you should be fine..

Nov 13, 2022 - 6:49:22 AM

45288 posts since 3/5/2008

Hey gun guys...

I have a thought..

I am consitering ..
Reconfiguring a clone m1 carbine to chamber n fire..
.300 blackout...
The cases seem to fit the mag fine...
N.. please..

Tell us all how that little stevens 414 shoots Mr. Holler.. :0)

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